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Kappuchino's avatar

The comments are interesting so far: From my understanding, they're celebrating that "AI isn't bad" or at least that bad. Well ...

... another "easy" metric is the datacenter count x energy consumption. Please show me, how that is going down and I'll shut up.

Because until the 3rd Summer of AI datacenter consumption and grow was slow / or was pointing down per center. Systems got more and more energy effective thanks optimization of Hardware and Virtualization.

But now its 30 to 50% up in Energy and CO2 since 2020 for Microsoft, Google and so on. Why the f** would they need atomic energy so bad?

Also, the current speculation on datacenters *needed* in the future for anything AI is a business - much like the oil industry - that will create demand one way or another. Either demand is high and will pay out. Or ... by overproviding, the cost will be that low, AI becomes dirt cheap for a while to put it in anything up to your buttons. WIN WIN.

On top of that Future AI - unless there is a transformer miracle - will need so much more than a few hundred tokens per task: AI Agent Systems need constant and multiplied compute time to function.

But hey, what do I know, I only see the big picture and read the financial statments of AI & datacenter companies. Maybe its all a bubble. Maybe you should read the enviroment and risk sections, too.

Alessandro Sisti's avatar

Thanks for writing this, Andy! A point worth sharing here is that the environmental critique of LLMs seems to have been "transferred" from the same critique of blockchain technology and NFTs. An environmental critique of NFTs is, as far as I know, valid — selling 10 NFTs does about as much harm, measured in carbon emissions, as switching to a hybrid car does good. What may have happened is that two coalitions that were arguing with each other about one technology simply reused the same arguments when a newer, reputedly-energy-intensive technology came around.

This hypothesis is not my own, but it strikes me as extremely plausible. I couldn't see how otherwise critics of AI could have anchored on this argument, when there are many other perfectly valid arguments about the downsides of LLMs!

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